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Post by erinion on Sept 3, 2006 6:54:30 GMT -5
Okay, does everyone know the scene where Boromir is examining the shards of Narsil? He runs his finger along the blade, and cuts his finger. In real life, this couldn't happen unless it was a samurai sword, for one main reason:
Medieval swords did not have sharp edges. Why? In battle, they would shatter as soon as they struck metal. They would be blunt. The same would apply for swords in Middle-Earth. But, why does Boromir say the blade is still sharp?
So, either there is a glitch or the Middle-Earth swords were specially made. Somebody please explain.
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Post by Majimaune on Sept 4, 2006 1:42:04 GMT -5
Well this is an interesting topic. Truth be told it's made out of metal of (Aggggggggghhhhhhhh mental blank) wherever the Gondorians guys are from. It's probably some specail metal from there. And also, Folded metal (Samuri swords are folded) is stronger then what it would be normally.
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Post by erinion on Sept 4, 2006 4:06:11 GMT -5
Okay, it's made from Numenorean metal or any metal mined from Middle-Earth. But it's not samurai, and unless it's folded how would he cut himself?
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Post by Majimaune on Sept 5, 2006 1:31:22 GMT -5
Well the elves made their swords out of folded steel. I don't see why the Numanoreans wouldnt do the same as they learnt alot from them.
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Post by erinion on Sept 5, 2006 3:06:19 GMT -5
I don't remember reading that...but that doesn't mean you're not right. Okay, well did the elves at Imladris keep the sword sharp? Because without use, it would become blunt. In the book, Aragorn carried it around, but didn't use it.
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Post by Majimaune on Sept 27, 2006 20:34:51 GMT -5
I actually think he did use it. Only some of the blade but he would have had to have a blade of some sort being a ranger, so he would keep it sharp.
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Post by erinion on Oct 1, 2006 3:52:34 GMT -5
Ah yes, but if you remember, he had a full sword against the Nazgul at Weathertop. Or am I wrong? No, wait, I'm 90% sure he used a sword, and didn't use Narsil.
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Post by Majimaune on Oct 1, 2006 20:42:45 GMT -5
Are you talking about movie or book?
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Post by erinion on Oct 1, 2006 23:23:45 GMT -5
Book. So, would that mean that Aragorn had a useless hilt with him? As a Ranger, that could make it difficult, and would explain in the movie why it was at Rivendell. But did Aragorn have a long sword with him in the wild?
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Post by fanficfan on Oct 2, 2006 6:39:06 GMT -5
Yes Aragorn had a sword at Weathertop. As a ranger he carried a longsword. He carried the shards of Narsil but they wouldn't have been in a scabbard.
The sword Narsil was forged in the First age by Telchar. He was one of the greatest smiths ever. I think it'd be pretty fair to assume that he could make a blade that would not shatter, I wouldn't discount the possibility of some type of magic either.
I'd also think that once it went to Rivendel that it'd have been pretty well looked after too, the Elves would have looked after the blade and wotnot. Aragorn would have looked after it too, probably cleaned it while he brooded over the possiblity of taking the throne.
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Post by Majimaune on Oct 2, 2006 19:59:31 GMT -5
If I am not mistaken in The Fellowship of the Ring Aragorn pulls out the hilt of Narsil and says something to Sam. I just tryed to find it but couldnt so I'll look again later when I have more time. In that there is no evidence that he carries another sword.
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Post by fanficfan on Oct 2, 2006 20:41:45 GMT -5
I haven't read the book in quite a while, but I find it hard to imagine that Strider or Aragorn would ever be without a servicable sword. He definately had a sword in the movies though.
Also, just a thought on making a sharp sword. At the time of the last alliance, there wouldn't have been that much mettal armour, The Elves and Numenorians had it, but Orc armour would have been pretty crappy.
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Post by erinion on Oct 3, 2006 21:29:12 GMT -5
That's beside the point. It's strong enough to shatter a sharp sword, which is what I'm questioning. I guess the other part that we need to know about is Narsil itself. Who made it, when and how did Elendil get it?
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Post by fanficfan on Oct 3, 2006 22:34:03 GMT -5
Not sure how Elendil got it, but it was made by the Dwarven Master Smith, Telchar, in the first age. That's why I think it would have stood up to armour, tricks of the trade, magic, best of the best kinda thing.
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Post by Majimaune on Oct 4, 2006 3:46:10 GMT -5
I think Narsil was some sort of heirloom so yes it could have been made by some dwarf possibly Telchar. Or it could have been made by Gil-galad and given to Elendil sometime before they went to ME. Either was is possible because either way it could have sharp edges.
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