taran
Hobbit
The assistant Pig-keeper
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Post by taran on Aug 20, 2006 15:37:56 GMT -5
That's exactly what the Oil Companies want you to think.
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Post by Majimaune on Aug 21, 2006 3:43:18 GMT -5
Your hating arent you fanficfan having to pay for petrol.
Their talking about putting ethenol in Australian fuel but whether its just talk...
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Post by Angoreth on Aug 22, 2006 3:57:05 GMT -5
Hmm, I had read somewhere that a man had invented a solar powered tower that could and would have powered a whole town. A high originaztion though shut it down, they realized it would take away from gas profits. That's what I read any way, I can't remember much about it, I'll have to try and find it again.
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Post by erinion on Aug 22, 2006 4:43:30 GMT -5
Well, I guess in aims for the future would be stop using gas and petrol. That's always a good idea to get going
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Post by Majimaune on Aug 23, 2006 1:33:00 GMT -5
Yep that wouldbe a way to start but it will take a long time do go anywhere.
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Post by barlimanbutterbur on Sept 21, 2006 9:47:18 GMT -5
I suspect we will do as we have always done: the big corporations will hang on to whatever process makes them money until they have squeezed the very last dollar out, and THEN they will trumpet a "new" procedure that the rest of us have been hollering for, for years. I think Brazil has absolutely the right idea, and the rest of us should follow suit, both for cleaner fuel, and to break our slavery to the oil-bloated Middle East. I'm for any kind of clean energy. But let's not forget that the factories that produce clean energy cannot be powered by coal — which is already happening with US production of Ethanol... Barley
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Post by Majimaune on Sept 29, 2006 2:18:06 GMT -5
Petrol prices seemed to come down while I was away although in Central Australia the prices where like $1.80 and above but when I got back to the coast the cheepest I saw was $1.04 which I thought was pretty good.
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Post by TheBlackWizard on Oct 12, 2006 14:52:51 GMT -5
I remember the days when gasonline was $.90. Ahh, but that was so long ago.
There is not much time, no matter what anyone says, for people to amend for their mistakes, and the damage wrought uthingy the enviorment. If the Big Players keep exhausting resources such as fossil fuels and such until there is no more, and THAN start finding renewable sources of energy, than the fact of the matter is, we're all doomed.
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taran
Hobbit
The assistant Pig-keeper
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Post by taran on Oct 12, 2006 18:58:09 GMT -5
Unfortunately, it's the nature of greed to hang onto a "good thing" no matter how bad it is. The oil companies don't care about the furture, as their goal is to gain as much profit as possible from the present.
Renewable energy exaists. It's been used by humans before.
Think: how can it be that we can no longer live without things that, for thousands of years, have never had an influence on humanity? These inventions, powered by our greed, have only apeared in the last fifty or a hundred years.
Yet we are convinced we CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT THEM.
But, to return: there are sources of clean energy. These sources are being held back, not because they're to difficult to create, but because there is NO DEMAND for them. The average 17-year-old male wants a car so he/she can drive--no thought of the enviroment factors in.
We say these renewable technologies are not yet feasable, but if we pumped as much money into the their research as we do into, say, oil exploration and shipping, we'd already be there.
There is no end to human stupidity, especially on the collective level. It's time for us to return to Prydain.
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Post by Majimaune on Oct 13, 2006 2:10:12 GMT -5
You know we could use water (not that that would help Aussies with the worst drought in 100 years) to feul our cars. Also vegetable oil can also be used, old stuff thats just about to be thrown out. I think the Doc in Back To The Future had a good one but putting banana peal in the feul tank of that thing he called a car.
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Post by fanficfan on Oct 16, 2006 6:07:37 GMT -5
Going back a bit... Maj - Yes I am hating paying for petrol And we have "Ethanol enhanced petroleum" already. That's what I've been getting. Better for the environment, someone told me it's good for the car (not sure there) and it's cheaper More recently... Maj - Yeah the doc in bttf 2 had some sort of fusion reactor that ran on organic garbage. What do you mean "that thing he called a car" ?!?! The Delorian is one of the sexiest cars ever made. Unfortunately there's only something like 4 left in the world so my chances of getting one are somewhere between "none" and "bugger all" TBW - Petrol at $0.90? U.S $? Is that per litre or per gallon? I remember when we had it for $0.60 per litre (or less) in Aus. Taran - Ah yes, human stupidity. You realise how true that is when you meet those people who, when they die, will raise the average IQ of humanity... Unfortunately there is not yet a cure for either greed or stupidity, so for the moment we'll just have put up with it. And you're right, there are a lot of things we suddenly can't live without. And I'll bet that all of us are just as guilty of that as everyone else. How long could you go without the internet, or without your computer. Without Television, mobile/cell phones, cars (if you've got 'em), microwaves, fridges, electric ovens, central heating, air conditioning, electric lights (now if any of you have ever tried reading by candlelight you'll know just how lucky we are to have electric lights) Try it some time, turn off you're phones, don't use the net, don't watch your TV, don't use the microwave or electric lights. Try it for 2 days, see just how much you rely on technology and electricity and such. hmm, I think I've gotten slightly OT here but never the less. It was fun to write.
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Post by Majimaune on Oct 17, 2006 1:55:04 GMT -5
More recently... Maj - Yeah the doc in bttf 2 had some sort of fusion reactor that ran on organic garbage. What do you mean "that thing he called a car" ?!?! The Delorian is one of the sexiest cars ever made. Unfortunately there's only something like 4 left in the world so my chances of getting one are somewhere between "none" and "bugger all" I think your right there. But the car thing, it is hardly a car when it can go back and forth in time. TBW - Petrol at $0.90? U.S $? Is that per litre or per gallon? I remember when we had it for $0.60 per litre (or less) in Aus. I think he means gallons cause that what they use in the U.S. Try it some time, turn off you're phones, don't use the net, don't watch your TV, don't use the microwave or electric lights. Try it for 2 days, see just how much you rely on technology and electricity and such. Um I dont have a mobile, car (could be because I cant drive yet), and our microwave is dying. Not using the net and watching TV arent really nesesities of life. What do you call a class trip then when you have none of these things? I went for basicly three weeks without that stuff for the majority of the time.
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Post by fanficfan on Oct 18, 2006 2:42:38 GMT -5
It's still a car Maj. An obscenely cool car, but a car just the same.
Any idea how many litres to the gallon???
I wasn't necessarily refering to owning a car, having one available to get you to school and other such places is what I meant. And when your microwave dies it'll probably be replaced. True, net and tv aren't necessities, but they are 2 of my 3 primary sources of entertainment when I'm at home. (the third being reading but not necessarily in that order). I call Lorien class trips a holiday, a vaction from reality, a way for you parents to get rid of you for 3 weeks. Trips away don't count, I'm talking about living at home without any of that stuff.
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Post by Majimaune on Oct 19, 2006 4:51:29 GMT -5
I went without the computer yesterday I mean that probably did something.
Instead I was listening to music and reading.
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Post by SizarieldoR on Aug 20, 2007 8:48:38 GMT -5
LOL, taran, we need to learn from plants to use solar energy!
I say that there's not enough effort from the government - after all it's their responsibility to improve the infrastructure.
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